Puppy vomiting

• 07-02-2008 5:36 PM

  dyan Joined on 09-10-2007 Ohio Posts 4,685 Points 105

  Puppy vomiting Reply Contact Well,, I just seem to be posting problems all over the place on this forum. Question.... haven't had a puppy for a long time now...and when I did have puppies...I also had small kids and probably a lot less time to watch the dogs than I did the kids. Gibson is about 14 weeks today.  He is pretty healthy and very happy I think. Well...happy except for when he has to be crated...lol! I see something here that I wonder how concerned I need to be....  Last Thursday when I got home from work, DH was walking passed me with a bottle of carpet cleaner. I asked him if Gibby pee'd on the rug..he said no.... he threw up.  He said just a little bit and it looked like food. BUT Gibby ate it back ( gross,,I know) That would have been about 3:00 in fhe afternoon, Gibby hadn't eaten since about 5:30 AM.  Except for some kibble for treats.    HHHmmm!   Then a couple of nights ago... or I should say early morning about 4 or 4:30 AM I woke up to him heaving ( doggy heaves ) a couple of times and then him eating it up.   It was all really fast,,,I actually woke up because DH woke me up...   I did not see what he had thrown up, it was dark.  But he hadn't eaten since probably 6 PM except for some kibble as treats when he goes out or when we are working with him.  Then today..I was outside about 3:30 PM watering my plants...Gibby was waiting for me to come in...DH called to me that Gibby threw up again.... and ate it.  Dont' know why he did'nt stop him, probably becasue then he would have to pick it up.  But he said it looked like dry food.  I doubt it looked dry....but it must have been lumpy like food. Again....he had breakfast at about 6:30...and only kibble for snacks... and a few treats that I gave him while trying to cut his nails.   He seems fine...he wants to eat... and plays and acts normal. Today I took him for a nice long walk...he is finally not wanting me to carry him on the last half of our walks, so he is pretty strong.   He has a huge appititite....and even in the AM when I want to take him out before breakfast he sits and stares at his food in the canister.  But why throwing up a few hours before he is going to eat?  I don't get it.  The time he did it in the early morning...I drove to work really nervous...becasue I was thinking about him and then Bubby with her megaesophagus. BUT when I got to work I looked up MegaE in our doctors vet book...and was reminded that the difference that you had to watch for with MegaE is that they don't heave up with that illness....because that isn't coming from the stomach.  So I felt better. But I dont' know what to think about this. Hoping someone has some ideas.   Dyan and Bubby

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• 07-03-2008 12:16 AM

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  willowchow Joined on 09-10-2007 Posts 6,117 Points 300	Re: Puppy vomiting Reply Contact Hi Dyan!  How's puppyland??  It's usually just bile but Willow will do the same thing if it's more than say 10 hours since her last meal.  Is he getting Eagle Pack?  If it's food maybe something in that just isn't ageeing with him.
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• 07-03-2008 5:03 PM

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  dyan Joined on 09-10-2007 Ohio Posts 4,685 Points 105	Re: Puppy vomiting Reply Contact Hi Lori. Thanks for answering.....wow...I'm surprised no one else is coming up with answers. Guess no one is reading the puppy forum.  LOL! Puppyland is CRAZY...forgot how much! Yes, he is on EP Puppy.    I'm confused about this..will watch him carefully though! Dyan and Bubby
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• 07-03-2008 5:45 PM

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  janetmichel3009 Joined on 11-28-2006 Beijing, China Posts 2,269 Points 370

  Re: Puppy vomiting Reply Contact dyan, he might just be one of those dogs, that can't tolerate an empty stomac well... jason is like that. i have to be very careful to feed him regularily. if it gets too long in between meals he will throw up bile... maybe it's just too long between meals for him? try feeding a bit more regularily? i know that's probably a major pain, cause it might mess with his schedule, but... Janet

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• 07-03-2008 9:53 PM

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  dyan Joined on 09-10-2007 Ohio Posts 4,685 Points 105

  Re: Puppy vomiting Reply Contact Thank you Janet...but the thing is....its NOT bile. I would understand that one...after not eating all that time.  Although...he does get a lot of snacks...in the form of kibble that is used for treats for training.  But he pretty much eats regularly also.  Believe me...we TRY to hold him off in the morning when I don't work..but he makes me get up to feed him.......  and his supper pretty much always comes 12 hours later.   I am thinking maybe he should still be eating 3 times a day. Dyan and Bubby

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• 07-04-2008 3:21 PM

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  kpwlee Joined on 06-16-2006 North Carolina Posts 3,664 Points 355

  Re: Puppy vomiting Reply Contact dyan: I am thinking maybe he should still be eating 3 times a day. I definitely think he should be eating 3x a day.  Bugsy ate 3x a day until he was at least 6 months old.  It kept the amount per feeding more reasonable and it was the only way to keep his hunger in check.  His 'dinner' still happens about 3 if possible. He is incredibly hungry at that time.  He can go until about 5 but if it is much later than that he will vomit it up.  Everytime I have tried to delay this 'evening' meal it causes problems. He usually gets some table scraps after we eat (meat and veggies) so I guess he is still on 3 a day

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• 07-04-2008 7:06 PM

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  willowchow Joined on 09-10-2007 Posts 6,117 Points 300	Re: Puppy vomiting Reply Contact Oh, I see what you are saying, he's only eating around every 12 hours or so.  I think Bugsy's mom is right(LOL, not that I'm a pup expert or anything!!) but he would probably do much better with the three.  I hope he's feeling better already.
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• 07-05-2008 7:58 AM

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  dyan Joined on 09-10-2007 Ohio Posts 4,685 Points 105

  Re: Puppy vomiting Reply Contact Well he threw up again this morning...about 4:00 AM. THIS time I put the light on right away..I wasnt' in such a deep sleep that I didn't know what was happening like the last time.  It wasn't a lot...but it was food that was chucky (partially digested ) ,,,smelled like food pretty much, not like sick.  It was in his pen that he sleeps in...I ran to get something to clean it up and he ate it by the time I got back...one second later. Been fine since.  He went back to sleep for an hour...then got up and wanted out of his pen...pulled him in bed with me where he slept until about 6:45 and he got up wanting to eat breakfast. He seems to be slimming out again....more ribs starting to show..   the Great Dane Lady said for his age he should be getting 3 - 5 cups a day split in two.  He gets 4 split in 2, for the past 2 weeks.   Thinking of adding another cup...maybe later in the day to make a third time again.   HHHHmmm! Dyan and Bubby

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• 07-05-2008 9:45 AM

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  outdoorschik Joined on 09-10-2007 White Mountains, NH Posts 496 Points 50

  Re: Puppy vomiting Reply Contact  Hi Dyan congrats on the puppy! First, I'd second the splitting the food into three meals. Second, has be been tested for worms/wormed? I'd bring in a stool sample to the vet, often they'll look at it without the dog. Vomitting in pups is common if they have a belly full of worms (you might not be seeing them in the stools), he could have worms even if his breeder has already wormed him.   Karen

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• 07-05-2008 12:05 PM

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  janetmichel3009 Joined on 11-28-2006 Beijing, China Posts 2,269 Points 370	Re: Puppy vomiting Reply Contact yeah, dyan... the more you discribe this, the more i'm thinking, you might wanna check this with a vet.... it sounds a  bit weird to me... Janet
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• 07-06-2008 8:20 AM

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  corvus Joined on 08-02-2006 Australia (NSW) Posts 2,101 Points 80

  Re: Puppy vomiting Reply Contact I'm having a similar problem with Kivi Tarro. Same age. I wouldn't say he threw up a lot, but he does I guess every few days or so, usually nothing very much. Tonight he threw up his entire dinner and then some bile and he's still seeming a bit seedy and unhappy. I think I way overfed him. The vet told me he was a bit skinny and that I couldn't really overfeed him at this age and I should just let him have what he wants. If I went with that he'd eat me out of house and home, but I thought today I'd up it significantly and see if it made any differences. After a huge lunch and a huge dinner, he went outside and had a drink and I picked him up and carried him to bed because he wasn't moving fast enough and I wanted to give the hare some time. I think that's what unsettled his way overfull tummy and he brought it all up. First time he's really brought up food, though. Mostly it's just bile first thing in the morning, or a whole lot of water and an itsy bit of food. I kinda figured young uns tend to throw up a bit. Can overfeeding or drinking lots of water after a meal cause vomiting? KT has definitely been wormed and should still be covered for at least another couple of weeks.  Melissa's family: Penny - corgi, Kit - wild hare, Bonnie - rabbit, Kivi Tarro - Finnish Lapphund "She's always talking about her hare."

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• 07-06-2008 8:59 AM

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  dyan Joined on 09-10-2007 Ohio Posts 4,685 Points 105

  Re: Puppy vomiting Reply Contact You know Corvus....I think you CAN over feed a puppy. If you let them eat what they want to...some will not stop. My friend was just talking last night about how their sons pug got into the cannister of dog food because they forgot to close it...and he ate the whole thing and got sick for days.    I believe Gibby is the kind of dog that would probably eat way way too much and get sick because he thinks he should be eating all the time.   He wants to eat breakfast in the morning before even going out....and you KNOW he has to go. But they can eat or drink too much, and maybe get into a little too much activity after they eat and then throw it up. outdoorschik: Second, has be been tested for worms/wormed? I'd bring in a stool sample to the vet, often they'll look at it without the dog. Vomitting in pups is common if they have a belly full of worms (you might not be seeing them in the stools), he could have worms even if his breeder has already wormed him.     He had been wormed three times by the breeder,,,the last time the day I picked him up. Then when I took him to my vet he was wormed again. So I'm pretty positive its not worms.  In fact when I took him in a week ago Friday...I left the wormer there...didn't even bring it home with me. Yesterday I fed Gibson his food regular...but then added 3/4 cup at night about 10. Wasnt' sure how that would "sit" with him but he has been thinning out...think he is growing quickly now and needs more food. I am following The Great Dane Ladys feeding chart and he is under the maximum of what she thinks they would eat.  She said 3 - 5 c. divided into 2 times...and he was getting 4c divided into 2.  I think I need to add some but do'nt know about adding more to each feeding so thought I would add it later in the evening and see how that works.  I have never seen him vomit after he ate..I have never seen him act sick or uncomfortabe.... he had his couple of vomiting episodes many many hours after dinner...such as 10 hours. But the other thing we have going for us... ( or against ) is he has a rash sort of thing on his neck that I have posted on another thread.  I'm wondering if he is having a problem with his food. I am looking into this.  Perhaps an ingredient is not agreeing with him.  Trying to figure out if this is SINCE switching him from Pedigreed ( which the breeder insisted I keep him on until he is 6 months-----but I didn't ) to Eagle Pack.  Dyan and Bubby

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• 07-06-2008 4:39 PM

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  willowchow Joined on 09-10-2007 Posts 6,117 Points 300	Re: Puppy vomiting Reply Contact My original post thought it was the food too Dyan--that's a lot of different ingredients for a young dog especially one that didn't get it right off that bat.  Also, I know Willow will get sick on kibble that is too large.  How's the size for his age?
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• 07-06-2008 5:36 PM

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  dyan Joined on 09-10-2007 Ohio Posts 4,685 Points 105

  Re: Puppy vomiting Reply Contact willowchow: Also, I know Willow will get sick on kibble that is too large.  How's the size for his age?  Actually, I just told DH that the next bag of food I buy for him,, I have to investigate...I want kibble that is bigger. You see, the Pedigreed he ate he chewed...he still has some and I use it for treats and he chews it. But the EP puppy is small enough that he doesnt' chew it hardly at all...and I am considering that maybe that is also the reason for vomiting.    Dyan and Bubby

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• 07-08-2008 10:38 AM

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  outdoorschik Joined on 09-10-2007 White Mountains, NH Posts 496 Points 50

  Re: Puppy vomiting Reply Contact Dyan, respectfully, you cannot know it is not worms for sure without a stool sample. I went through something very similar which is why i keep pushing the stool sample thing on you... my pup was wormed according to a similar sched. as you just described and we were having intermittent vommitting/coughing, she was on steroids and all sorts of things. Finally, I brought in a stool sample and found that it was indeed worms, immediate relief of the vommitting.... maybe the worms have grown resistant to the initial wormer, maybe the pup kept reinfecting himself, maybe the worming schedule did not kill all the worms and there were some eggs left each time, who knows. I think it is def. worth a call to the vet to ask if it would be worth it to bring in a sample... can't hurt and may solve your problem. best of luck.

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