I don't know about the whole paddling thing. I want to be totally against it, but then I think about what teachers have to deal with everyday and I don't know. I can't imagine how hard it must be for teachers.
I think there's no question that the problem stems from the parents. I don't know what it is, when I was a kid, in elementary school, there didn't seem to be so many behaviour problem kids. I mean, there were the "bad" kids, but they were the kids from the lower income families. At least in my small town that I grew up in. There wasn't a lot of them by any means. It seems like now, when I am out shopping, I see all sorts of unruley kids in stores, restaurants, etc. Parents don't seem to know how or want to or perhaps they are afraid to discipline their kids.
I think if kids have no consequences at home and they are not taught to respect adults, then teachers don't stand a chance of being able to discpline them at school.
I will use my neice and nephew as an example. At first meeting, they appear to be good, well behaved children, until you spend some time with them. They do not listen to a word anyone says, even their parents. They have no consequences for being rude of misbehaving. It's not like they misbehave outrageously, so my BIL/SIL are under the impression that they are perfect. Their misbehaving is small things, but rude things. They don't say hello when they arrive somewhere. They just go and play their video games quietly. If they are doing something to annoy the dogs/taunting them and FH and I try to explain that what they are doing is really bothering the dogs, they don't listen, they will keep doing it until we remove ourselves and the dogs from the room - BIL/SIL can be in the same room and they will say nothing to tell them to listen to us, or to stop them from doing the behaviour. When my nephew gets really upset, his reaction is to lunge and start punching at you, and BIL/SIL will say nothing to him about it. Usually, if we try to tell the kids not to do something, my neices reaction is to start crying and run to BIL/SIL who will then pick her up and cuddle her, telling her it's ok, etc. Our nephew will just look at us and walk away. They have learned that they aren't accountable to any adults for anything. I think it's just lucky that they are quiet withdrawn kids and their behaviour isn't "outgoingly violent or loud" if you know what I am trying to say.
I think parents in a lot of cases, tend to look towards schools as a babysitting service, not a place of leaning and growing. They expect teachers to parent their children so they don't have to. I think that sex education is a good example of this. I am on a skiing website, have been for years, but the majority of kids on there now are 13-17 and it's outragous what these kids don't know about sex and preventing pregnancy and STD's - yes that has little to do with skiing, it's just the only place I "talk" or "read" what teenagers say LOL. I don't know where they get their "facts" from, they just spew misinformation to other teenagers. I think it is soooo important for parents to talk to their kids about sex education. I don't even know if schools do it at all now. When I was in school, I think we had like three sex ed lessons, that was it. I think it's an awkward conversation that parents don't want to have, so they are happy in assuming their child's school will cover all the necessary information. Nevermind the fact that I am pretty sure there are still schools that teach abstinence and nothing else.
I am probably done now, who knew that would turn into a sex education rant. Oh well.
Sadie - AKA: Beaglejuice, Lazer, or Mercedes - 5 year old Beagle/probably Basset cross.
Timmy - AKA: Bimothy, Bimmy, or Mothra - 3 year old Rottweiler.