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limited ingrediant/high quality/good for skin?

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  • 09-08-2009 12:57 PM

    • erica1989
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    limited ingrediant/high quality/good for skin?

    Alright. I have a friend with a dog (some sort of fox hound). She was eating Blue Buffalo, chicken formula (previously on Purina 1). She is prone to staph infections (as is my dog). She was eating BB for a long while - probably close to a year, with no problems.

    Recently, she started vomiting. She's been to the vet - clean bill of health. Of course - vet wants to change food - pref. to science diet. I told her she better not dare! We are discussing the possibility of a food allergy - or food intolerance. BB has a lot of ingrediants. She's been on a bland diet for a week or so now, and she's starting to add in the BB (so far so good) I think she's almost solely on kibble now, with just a little cottage cheese (as per her vet) mixed in.

    Now. In case the vomiting starts again, I said I'd look up some alternate food choices. We have a lot of little food stores around, but she is leary of some of the owners (in our line of work, you hear the good/bad/ugly of everyone in the pet industry). There are some near by that she will shop at - so I would say we have a pretty good access to most.

    She will not do raw, and I doubt her hubby would go for homecooked. I talked to her about a trying a fish formula - and she seemed ok with that. She will not do rabbit, deer, buffalo, etc. (her personal choice, not mine!)

    any ideas, food experts? :)

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  • 09-08-2009 1:07 PM In reply to erica1989

    Re: limited ingrediant/high quality/good for skin?

    I use California Natural LIDs (lamb or chicken).  Only down-side so far is they sometimes get smelly gas.  Otherwise they love the food, coats look amazing, dogs are healthy, poops are normal.

    For a bland or elimination diet, I use cooked white rice and boiled ground beef.  I boil it to get all the grease/fat at the top, then put it in a strainer running hot water over it, then boil a little longer and strain it again.  I use a 50/50 mix of rice to meat, but my vet recommends 1 part meat to 3 parts rice.


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  • 09-08-2009 2:16 PM In reply to Liesje

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    Re: limited ingrediant/high quality/good for skin?

    She did the chicken and rice, with a touch of cottage cheese. Origionally, the vet said they'd re-introduce the origional food (BB) after a few days, then changed his mind and wanted to put her in SD-ID for 2 weeks...guess he makes more money that way.

    Either way - the dog wont eat ID, canned or dry, so that wasn't an option. All her blood work (including the snap test for pancreatitus), fecal and urine came back normal. Which is why we're thinking food allergy/intolerance.

    I'll mention the Cali Naturals. I read about Natural Balance Allergy foods somewhere too. Thoughts on that, anyone?

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  • 09-08-2009 2:26 PM In reply to erica1989

    Re: limited ingrediant/high quality/good for skin?

    Some of the Natural Balance formulas have changed recently.  I know of a couple of dogs here who are having problems with it now.

    I would try Cal Natural if it were one of my dogs.

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  • 09-08-2009 2:30 PM In reply to erica1989

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    Re: limited ingrediant/high quality/good for skin?

    erica1989:
    I read about Natural Balance Allergy foods somewhere too. Thoughts on that, anyone?

    I've used NB for the last few years with Sassy and she's an allergy nightmare. We'd been using the duck & potato all this time but the changed it (improved it?) and she had a bad flare-up of itching. We've got her on the NB Venison and Potato now and she's doing much better. I use both the kibble and canned.

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  • 09-08-2009 5:44 PM In reply to cakana

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    Re: limited ingrediant/high quality/good for skin?

    NB used to be a good product but I feel they've gone down. Wellness Core was really great for my super allergy dog, the fish version. Orijen has a fish version I'd give a try too. It isn't limited ingredient but the product is very trustworthy. Legacy also makes an intersting new product that is made with peas rather than sweet potato or white potato. It is SUPER easy to digest. It is poultry based though so if poultry is the problem that wouldn't be a good solution. Of course ID would Not be either. I've found a product I really like for coat/skin called Zinpro. Again, it's not really an allergy food but if her issue is actually a nutritional deficiency Zinpro is worth a shot.
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  • 09-22-2009 3:52 PM In reply to erica1989

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    Re: limited ingrediant/high quality/good for skin?

    I'd definitely try California Natural -- my malamute did great on it when he went through a rough patch, and his coat looked great!
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  • 09-23-2009 12:47 AM In reply to MalOwner

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    Re: limited ingrediant/high quality/good for skin?

     BF's parents' boxer does spectacularly on Natural Balance. We still have no idea what he's allergic to (chicken and rice are strong candidates, but he did poorly on fish-based kibbles as well, so..?), but on the NB he doesn't have the explosive diarrhea that he had on the 4 other specialty kibbles we had him on.

    Plus, his coat looks amazing - very soft and shiny. And he gets zero supplements, other than what he scrounges from the compost pile. Wink

    Not sure about any recent changes, it'd be worth looking into for sure, but NB has worked very well for BF's family. Particularly since it's so easily available (they get it at Petco).

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  • 09-23-2009 9:29 PM In reply to erica1989

    Re: limited ingrediant/high quality/good for skin?

    Another one that she could try is Wellness Simple Solutions. They have duck, lamb and salmon formulas. Here's a link:

    http://www.wellnesspetfood.com/dog_wellness_simple_food_solutions_index.html

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  • 09-23-2009 9:35 PM In reply to Luvntzus

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    Re: limited ingrediant/high quality/good for skin?

    Thanks guys- I will file these away! The dog is back on her Blue - and doing great. Not sure what caused the issue - but all is well at the moment!!!

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  • 09-24-2009 8:19 PM In reply to erica1989

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    Re: limited ingrediant/high quality/good for skin?

    just seeing this now - Erica several dogs around here had similar vomiting issues that just sort of resolved - one friend said her vet told her it was likely just a virus - glad to hear she is doing fine!
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  • 09-24-2009 8:26 PM In reply to kpwlee

    • erica1989
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    Re: limited ingrediant/high quality/good for skin?

    yea - we have no clue what it was. she eats a lot of things in her yard (bark, bugs, etc) xray showed no obstruction, and blood work came back great. So - must have just been an upset tummy issue. Vet did say she has an enlarged organ (can't remember which one.. liver? pancreas? I don't remember) but he wasn't concerned.

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  • 09-28-2009 6:42 AM In reply to erica1989

    Re: limited ingrediant/high quality/good for skin?

     Ari is queen of vomiting.  It could have been a fluke thing that your friends dog had.  It could be a problem with an organ - not necessarily something serious however.

    As for a simple diet, we've fed Ari California Natural after a couple of months of bringing her home.  She does well on the lamb and chicken variety.  She can't have the fish though, oooooh booooy did that cause some interesting bowel movements and gas.

    Ari's coat is fantastic. It's got a nice texture and is very shiny.  In fact, it's usually the thing people first compliment her on (that or how unbelievably crazy she is lol).  We *do* on occasion throw some raw chicken giblets and necks, berries, egg, cottage cheese in her diet, but it's sporadic.  

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