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  • 04-18-2007 3:56 PM

    Apartments and dogs? *UPDATE*

    I am moving into my first apartment on May 6th, I sign the lease on Saturday!  Anyway, I have never rented before so I was hoping for some tips to make apartment life easier for my dogs.  It's a small studio, but it is a corner apartment on the first floor with a lot of grassy space outside.  Unfortunately I have to leave Eloise and Kai with my sister for now.  There is a one pet maxium, however, they said it would be fine for me to have both of my chihuahuas.  Emi is very high strung and HATES strangers.  I am worried that she will go nuts everytime she hears other people outside.  Are there any calming products that really work?  Any tips/advice on renting with dogs is welcomed!
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  • 04-18-2007 7:50 PM In reply to Disarray29

    RE: Apartments and dogs?

    Congrats on the new apartment. I have lived in apartments the majority of the time that I have had my dogs, and at first they are very excitable and loud when they hear someone walk by. However, they do seem to not be as much so after they become more comfortable.
    I would try to keep them occupied while you are gone, like using Kongs, etc, so that they are distracted and less likely to bark. It's good that you have a corner apartment, that will be less people going by them as well.
    Also, when you are walking them be prepared to possibly encounter dogs that are off-leash and it will help to have a plan in effect so that you can pick them up quickly if you need to. In all the apartment complexes I have lived, a lot of people have been really slack about obeying leash laws.
    I know there are some wall plugins at PetSmart that state they are soothing for dogs, but I have never tried them. Drs. Foster & Smith also has some kind of treats that are supposed to also be calming. I haven't used these so I can't speak for them, but with Stitches, she used to have anxiety medication from the vet for trips or when we first moved into a place because of her anxiety. You may want to try the plug-ins and treats, and if they do not work, check with your vet to see if they recommend anything for it.
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  • 04-18-2007 8:00 PM In reply to Disarray29

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    RE: Apartments and dogs?

    I live in an apartment and it is extremely noisy. I have people on all sides of me and they're mostly students. Tojo used to bark more but now he ignores everything except things that are out of the orindary, like when someone runs down the hall yelling or when the person upstairs literally jumps up and down.

    One thing that has made our lives easier is a regular potty schedule. That is probably the hardest part about it for me. It's so much more of a pain to put on the leash, get dressed, and go down the stairs outside (although it's probably easier for you than it is for me) than it is to just open the back door and let the pups out into the yard. I don't think I could've survived the housebreaking stage without the litterbox.
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  • 04-18-2007 8:07 PM In reply to Disarray29

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    RE: Apartments and dogs?

    Congrats on the apartment!
     
    I have lived in two apartments with my dog Ash. She's a medium size breed (Australian Cattle Dog), weighs about 40 lbs and comes up to about my knees. The first apartment we had was on a corner too, which helped a lot. She did bark and growl, but not too much and quickly got used to it. My second and current apartment is upstairs and it's even better. I would normally never want to be upstairs just because of how much more difficult it is to move in or out, but with a dog, it works out very well. Since we're upstairs AND on the corner, it's less noisy.
     
    Ash is a herding dog and most people told me that it wouldn't work having that kind of dog in an apartment, but it does work. I exercise her and when I leave her alone, she's tired and has a kong filled with either her breakfast or dinner. She sleeps most of the time. I also leave the tv on and keep all the blinds shut (even though she can't really see people outside since we're upstairs). She barked a lot at first, but she's fine now and I think she just sleeps. I crate her when I leave her too so she's not just wandering around. I may start letting her free roam, but I feel more secure with her being in the crate for the time being.
     
    My biggest problem with apartment/dog living is when I have to take Ash out to the bathroom. Ash HATES strangers and so I have to look out of the window first to make sure nobody is out there before I take her downstairs to the grass. If somebody comes along while I'm out there, it's just ugly and very irritating if Ash hasn't already gone.
     
    I think as long as your dogs are tired and given toys that mentally and/or physically stimulate them, then you'll be fine. I have personally noticed though that smaller dogs tend to be louder. They bark more, but that's just in my experience. I'm not sure what other dogs you have besides the chihuahuas. A neighbor about 6 doors down from me has a dog that barks ALL day and ALL night. It's very frustrating. They leave it outside and in the small patio area and I feel horrible for the poor thing because they are located right next to one of the entrance gates. That dog can really hear everybody that comes and goes and it just must be so frustrating and scary for the dog. [:(]
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  • 04-18-2007 8:08 PM In reply to Disarray29

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    RE: Apartments and dogs?

    ORIGINAL: rolenta
    One thing that has made our lives easier is a regular potty schedule. That is probably the hardest part about it for me. It's so much more of a pain to put on the leash, get dressed, and go down the stairs outside (although it's probably easier for you than it is for me) than it is to just open the back door and let the pups out into the yard. I don't think I could've survived the housebreaking stage without the litterbox.

     
    I just commented on this! I feel your pain! I hate having to get dressed, put the leash on, and go downstairs. In addtion, as I stated above, I have to be on the lookout for other people. 
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  • 04-18-2007 9:31 PM In reply to Disarray29

    RE: Apartments and dogs?

    Thanks for all the advice, it is really helpful.  I know, it's going to be an adjustment, but hopefully it won't end in disaster.  I'm going back to school and living in a town that is pretty much only college students.  It's going to be wild and noisy, but my parent's house is pretty busy most of the time.  We have exchange students in and out of the house, lots of pets, and with multiple teenagers (and myself) there is always loud music.  As for off leash dogs, my girls are fine with other dogs as long as they aren't really big (and with a 15lb weight restriction, they shouldn't be).  The thing I'm most worried about is people complaining about my dogs.  They really aren't "yappy", but Emi is easily set off.  They share a crate, that way they keep each other calm and quiet.  They hate being separated.  I don't really like to put food or treats in there when I'm gone because I worry they will fight over it, and they don't really play with toys.  I usually leave either the TV or my thunderstorm cd on when I leave.  I sleep with the thunderstorm cd so they are used to it, and I think it helps block out other noises.  So basically this has gotten REALLY long, but I really do appreciate all the advice I've gotten so far. 
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  • 04-21-2007 6:23 PM In reply to Disarray29

    RE: Apartments and dogs?

    Disarray -- I'm into this late but please please I hope you see this.  GET IN WRITING that you can have *both* dogs.
     
    That is such a sticking point sometimes -- and we want to hear those "oh, it will be ok they are small" words.  EXCEPT the first time someone complains about them, suddenly the "Oh wait -- you can't have TWO dogs anyway!!" card comes out. 
     
    You can think you can 'trust' them -- and honestly mostly you can't.  Either management will change, or someone will change their mind because "I thought they'd be quiet".  But even if they were both total angels and you were moving in where you knew there was a "one dog" rule and you had two, I would get ***written*** proof that they had waived that rule for you and for how long and that there were no 'provisions' or conditions.
     
    See you can get SOOOOO stuck money wise.  Because if THEY decide youu can *not* have two dogs and you've signed a lease, someone is going to decide to hold you to the lease even if you have to get rid of the dog(s) for you to satisfy the lease.  So literally you could be holding for the entire duration of the lease of money owed to them even if they are the ones who 'changed their mind' .  It's not fair but it's probably the law.  Get it in writing -- it's the only way and don't let them promise it AFTER you sign your lease.  Get it in writing *before* you sign the lease.
     
    I don't care how perfect the apartment is -- if it all turns sour it can be a heartbreaker.

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  • 04-21-2007 9:12 PM In reply to Disarray29

    RE: Apartments and dogs?

    There is a one pet maxium, however, they said it would be fine for me to have both of my chihuahuas.

    I so agree with Callie.  Get this in writing on the lease form ASAP and get the apartment manager's signature next to the modification.  Be sure that you have a copy of the modified lease.
     
    My sister rented her first apartment last summer and they lied plenty.  They were going to get all kinds of things done "right away" that still haven't been done.
     
    If you haven't already done so, sit down and read your lease carefully.  My sister had to get them to make several modifications to her lease before she would sign it.  For instance, she asked for (and got) an apartment with washer and dryer connections, but the lease originally said that she could not have a washer and dryer!!
     
    Note to lurkers:  Always get a copy of the lease at least 24-hours before you need to sign it, so that you have time to thoroughly read it.  Having a lawyer read it wouldn't be a bad idea.
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  • 04-21-2007 10:05 PM In reply to Disarray29

    RE: Apartments and dogs?

    Too late[:@]  I signed the lease today...I will ask them when I bring all my dog's vet records/pictures if they can write and sign the modifications on the lease.  I heard a few dogs barking while I was there, so hopefully my neighbors are not bark nazis.  I didn't even think to ask them to do that because the apartment manager assured me it was ok.  They will also be holding both of my dogs records so that should prove they agreed to both right?  I don't know, I guess I'm just a little naive when it comes to trusting people.  Lets just pray things go smoothly, I need this move to work out!
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  • 04-22-2007 4:41 AM In reply to Disarray29

    RE: Apartments and dogs?

    They will also be holding both of my dogs records so that should prove they agreed to both right?   I don't know, I guess I'm just a little naive when it comes to trusting people.

    No, accepting the records does not obligate them legally.  Besides things can conveniently get "lost".  Get them to sign a dated receipt for the dogs' records.  What do they want?
     
    When you ask the manager to make the modification to the contract, say "I just found out that a friend of mine had problems with her pets when the manager left and the new manager wouldn't honor a verbal agreement, so for my piece of mind would you please write it into the lease?"  If she says "no", then you can assume that her word is not to be trusted and you need to see a lawyer ASAP.  Some states have provisions that allow people to back out of a contract within 48 or 72 hours. 
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  • 04-22-2007 7:28 AM In reply to Disarray29

    RE: Apartments and dogs?

    ORIGINAL: janet_rose

    They will also be holding both of my dogs records so that should prove they agreed to both right?   I don't know, I guess I'm just a little naive when it comes to trusting people.

    No, accepting the records does not obligate them legally.  Besides things can conveniently get "lost".  Get them to sign a dated receipt for the dogs' records.  What do they want?
     
    When you ask the manager to make the modification to the contract, say "I just found out that a friend of mine had problems with her pets when the manager left and the new manager wouldn't honor a verbal agreement, so for my piece of mind would you please write it into the lease?"  If she says "no", then you can assume that her word is not to be trusted and you need to see a lawyer ASAP.  Some states have provisions that allow people to back out of a contract within 48 or 72 hours. 


    Definitely follow this advice!!!  (Janet, you and Callie are always so wise.) I can't tell you how many times I hear the horror stories.  Of course, I must day, I'd go bankrupt and live in my car before my dogs would go.  I actually had a client once who did that - I fugure if she kept her dogs despite her age and a mental illness, I could do it too LOL.
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  • 04-22-2007 11:46 PM In reply to Disarray29

    RE: Apartments and dogs?

    y'all gotta remember I'm a legal secretary. so I hear ALL DAY LONG about people who say "But they ***promised me it was ok*** and now that manager is gone and they want to kick me out!!"
     
    Get SOMETHING in writing.  Even if you write it out yourself and get that manager to sign it.  Have a copy put in your record there and KEEP A COPY. 
     
    It isn't that something will happen tomorrow -- but 6 months from now that manager gets fired or quits and the new manager comes in and says "No one enforces the RULES around here -- I WILL!!" and you are screwed.    Sorry to be so blunt but truly -- don't let it go. 

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  • 04-22-2007 11:57 PM In reply to Disarray29

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    RE: Apartments and dogs?

    "But they ***promised me it was ok*** and now that manager is gone and they want to kick me out!!"

     
    It's funny you mention this callie, at my building it is officially no dogs, but our manager doesn't care and specifically told me I could have pets if I chose.  Well guess what, she is leaving since my building is going condo and is being knocked down later this year.  The new manager for the last few months is trying to enforce the no dogs rule and a lot of people are moving out and loosing their relocation fee they should have got becasue they are going condo.  They are leaving me alone becasue Otto is small and I'm moving out this month already.  If you can get something in writing you should because it is a huge hastle if something changes and you are left holding the bag.


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  • 04-23-2007 12:13 AM In reply to Disarray29

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    RE: Apartments and dogs?

    I'm moving in August specifically so that I can have a dog, but I was able to negotiate a pet deposit with the new landlord and have "3 cats and 1 dog" explicitly stated on the new lease.  W00t!
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  • 04-23-2007 7:08 PM In reply to Disarray29

    RE: Apartments and dogs?

    Success!  I spoke to the manager and she is going to rewrite/sign the pet addendum for me and give me a copy.  You guys were freaking me out for a little while, but I really appreciate your advice.  I'm just relieved that she was so nice about it. 
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