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Artemis vs Innova..help?

Last post 01-10-2008 2:59 PM by LillianD. 5 replies.
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  • 01-08-2008 4:29 PM

    • jenn52
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    Artemis vs Innova..help?

    I went to buy some more Innova Puppy for Rory at a store near my work and apparently they stopped carrying it because the owner feels there are better foods.  She told me I should try Artemis because it’s better.  I guess someone she knew’s dogs got calcium deposits in their stomachs from Innova because of the bone chunks in the food.  My first question is, what ingredient is bone?  I’m sure they are just calling it something I don’t realize.  My next question is how do I know if I should switch?  I am not really sure what I am looking at on the packages other than no corn, wheat or soy.  Has anyone heard of bone problems in Innova?  Looking at the two different food ingredients below, is one that much better than the other?  On the dog food project website, Innova Puppy is a 5 where Artemis Small Puppy is a 4.  Can someone help direct me on this?  Anyone have experience with them?   I am not concerned with cost or whatever, I just want what's good for Rory.

     Innova Puppy

    Turkey, Chicken, Chicken Meal, Barley Brown Rice, Cottage Cheese, Tomatos, Sunflower Oil, Chicken Fat, Natural Flavors, Flaxseed, Potato, Herring, Apples, Carrots, Alfalfa Sprouts, Egg, Garlic, Dicalcium Phosphate, Potassium chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Chicory Root Extract, Direct-Fed Microbials, Ascorbic Acid, Beta Carotene, Biotin, Calcium Carbonate, Calcium Iodate, Choline Chloride, Cobalt Carbonate, Cobalt Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Dicalcium Pantothenate, dl-Methionine, Folic Acid, Iron Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Niacin, Potassium Chloride, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin C Supplement (Sodium Ascorbate), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement (Alpha Tocopherol), Zinc Proteinate

     Crude Protein (min)  26 %  Crude Fat (min)  12 %  Crude Fiber (max)  3.5 %  Moisture (max)  10 %  Linoleic Acid (Omega-6 Fatty Acid) (min)  2.3 %  Calcium (min)  1 %  Phosphorus (min)  0.08 %  Vitamin E (min)  1000 IU/kg  Vitamin C (min)  500 mg/kg  Omega-3 Fatty Acids (min)  0.5 % 

    Total Microorganisms (min)  90,000,000CFU/lb 

     Artemis Small Breed PuppyChicken, Turkey, Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Lamb Meal, Brown Rice, Pearled Barley, Chicken Fat (preserved with Vitamin E, C and Rosemary Extract), Oatmeal, Egg Product, Salmon, Natural Flavoring, Canola Oil, Flaxseed, Potatoes, Carrots, Peas, Apples, Cranberries, Dried Chicory Root (Prebiotics), Salt, Potassium Chloride, Lecithin, Garlic, DL-Methionine, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Choline Chloride, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Ascorbic Acid, Biotin, Inositol, Dehydrated Kelp, Chelates of Zinc, Iron, Manganese, Copper and Cobalt, Potassium Iodate, Sodium Selenite, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Sage Extract, Aspergillus Oryzae Fermantation Soulubles (Digestive Enzyme), Enterococcus Faecium and Lactobacillus Acidophilus (Probiotics).  Crude Protein, min.     28.0%Crude Fat, min.           17.0%Crude Fiber, max.       3.0%Moisture, max.            1.0%Omega-6 Fatty Acids, min.*  3.3%Omega-3 Fatty Acids, min.*  0.5%DHA (Docosohexaenoic Acid) (min.*)          0.05%

     

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  • 01-08-2008 5:36 PM In reply to jenn52

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    Re: Artemis vs Innova..help?

    I feed Innova to my tzu's...This is the first time I have heard about  it...Will be interesting to see what others say
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  • 01-08-2008 6:44 PM In reply to jenn52

    Re: Artemis vs Innova..help?

     I hadn't heard that and don't know the answer to your questions. The Antremis looks like good food though

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  • 01-08-2008 10:05 PM In reply to Jewlieee

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    Re: Artemis vs Innova..help?

    Artemis is in my two's rotation. They actually like it better then the innova. I don't think it should be a problem.


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  • 01-10-2008 1:14 PM In reply to jenn52

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    Re: Artemis vs Innova..help?

    Theoretically bone could be in the first three ingredients. The AAFCO definition of chicken is - the clean combination of flesh and skin with or without accompanying bone, derived from the parts or whole carcasses of chicken or a combination thereof, exclusive of feathers, heads, feet and entrails. Ground chicken is the same, only ground. Their definition of turkey is - unspecified turkey. Not a complete AAFCO description. I'm not sure what that means.
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  • 01-10-2008 2:59 PM In reply to jenn52

    Re: Artemis vs Innova..help?

    I've never heard about bone chunks in Innova, I fed it for four months and never saw anything amiss...

     

    I'd give the Artemis a try.  The only thing I don't like about Innova is with Barley so high on the ingredient list it really gave my dog the itchies.  Also, it seems like a lot of dogs dont' do well on Innova, like that particular combination of ingredients doesn't agree with a lot of dogs.

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