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Hello, trying to pick a dog - Updated, Found my dog!

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  • 10-26-2009 11:30 PM In reply to erica1989

    Re: Hello, trying to pick a dog

    erica1989:

     Rescues like that really upset me. There cannot possible be one blanket rule - for every dog. Rescues need to be willing to work with people, to educate and explain. They need to be flexible.

    I couldn't believe it. It was like a slap in the face. The women I talked to on the phone, after mailing in my application (with a fee), was so rude to me...she kept talking so loudly over me and talking down to me. Maybe because I sound young on the phone? IDK.

    I'm definitely not saying all rescues are like the one we dealt with. Some are excellent and extremely helpful and have great volunteers.

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  • 10-26-2009 11:38 PM In reply to BlackLabbie

    • erica1989
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    Re: Hello, trying to pick a dog

    Sadly, with some, it's all or nothing. And most would prefer the 'nothing' to the 'some'.

    That said - I'd probably be turned down by a rescue too, because my animals do not see a vet on a regular basis, are not up to date on all 'annual' shots (although most do have rabies and county licenses). I do not attend training classes (I have numerous trainers and behaviorists at my personal disposal). I also have 6 cats and a dog currently, so I'm sure they'd feel I have too many... My cats have a cat door to a screened in porch - which is a no-no for many cat specific groups. Confused

    ETA: the age thing is a bunch of bull. I don't know if you remember the time I adopted Danny, the aussie, from my animal control - but they gave me SUCH a hassle because of how young I look. I'm blonde, tall and thin - clearly an airhead dog owner...thankfully the adoption counselor could see past what the kennel staff couldn't get over...

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  • 10-26-2009 11:43 PM In reply to erica1989

    Re: Hello, trying to pick a dog

    erica1989:

    That said - I'd probably be turned down by a rescue too, because my animals do not see a vet on a regular basis, are not up to date on all 'annual' shots (although most do have rabies and county licenses).

    This is OT, but I've been thinking about stopping the annual vaccines, except rabies. All 3 dogs and all 3 cats get all the annual vaccines- even though my cats are soley indoors, and I don't board my dogs (they go to my parents or come with us). Of course they would all still go in for regular check ups, bloodwork, pee/poop exams, etc. I'm worried about being pressured from our vet though to get every vaccine for every pet, which is what I feel like happens a lot of the time. I only want to do what's good for my pets and I would die if they got sick from something they could've been vaccinated from.

    erica1989:

    ETA: the age thing is a bunch of bull. I don't know if you remember the time I adopted Danny, the aussie, from my animal control - but they gave me SUCH a hassle because of how young I look. I'm blonde, tall and thin - clearly an airhead dog owner...thankfully the adoption counselor could see past what the kennel staff couldn't get over...

    LOL, I look young for my age, too. Well, I am young but you know what I mean- I'm 24 but I look about 19. My DH on the other hand looks a lot older than 28....hehe.

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  • 10-26-2009 11:51 PM In reply to BlackLabbie

    • erica1989
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    Re: Hello, trying to pick a dog

    BlackLabbie:
    his is OT, but I've been thinking about stopping the annual vaccines, except rabies
     

    I do 3 year rabies for everyone (except the old lady). My cat had to get his FVRCP when we had his tail amputated, I wasn't happy - but it was hospital policy, so I understood. Personally, your vet should never pressure you into anything you don't want. That's one thing I really like about my vets (the ones my animals see, and the one I work for). They do not pressure me into vaccines and other things that I do not want (except for the one vaccine, and that was the tech- they wouldn't even let me talk to the Dr, but that's a story for another thread, lol).

    Anyways back on topic - I think they point we are trying to get at here is: there are many different types of people out there, and many different types of dogs. There is not, and cannot be, a blanket rule for all dogs - because not all are the same. 

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  • 10-27-2009 12:18 AM In reply to erica1989

    • stardog85
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    Re: Hello, trying to pick a dog

     I'm not a huge fan of blanket rules, myself, but I'm also not a fan of the other extreme either - hand us money and you get whatever dog you want.  Our HS does not have a policy prohibiting outside dogs, though we do restrict some dogs to indoor only homes because they would not do well outside (small breeds, very people centric, have lived 100% indoors except for walks until relinquishment, etc.).  We require puppies under 4mo be kept inside until they have had a rabies vaccine because rabies is relatively common in our area and because their small size makes them a target for a lot of bad stuff. 

    Unfortunately we do see a number of dogs returned because they were kept outside 100% with little interaction and now have behavior issues.  Outside dogs are very common around here and many just don't get the care or attention that the OP would give his animals.  I'm quite sensitive to the issue because of this.

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  • 10-27-2009 12:28 AM In reply to BlackLabbie

    Re: Hello, trying to pick a dog

    BlackLabbie:
    FWIW, my DH and I were rejected from a (very popular) Lab rescue in our areabecause we don't have a fenced in yard. We explained that we would leash walk and my parents- who have a huge, double lot, fenced in yard- live 2 houses away and we have permission to use their property whenever we like. Plus, I'm a dog walker/pet sitter working for myself so my dog can come to at least 1 park every single day. We have excellent vet references as well as personal/professional refrences. My job is a work from home/take the dog to work, so it could be with me 24/7. We have prior Lab experience. We would take an adult- we don't want a puppy. I agreed to obedience classes. We gladly invited a home inspection. We would send updates. We're financially sound. They still said no. No fenced in yard means no dog. Period.

     That really is sad - dogs are missing out on good homes (and keeping the rescue from being able to take in other Labs) because the people in charge are so close minded. I have honestly seen rescues say you can not adopt a dog unless you have a dog door that opens to a fenced yard. The point of rescue is not to only give dogs to people who will care for them exactly as you will but to find owners who will give a homeless dog a good life. A good life doesn't mean the dog has to sleep in the bedroom or has to have 24/7 access to a fenced yard or have someone home with them 24/7 or has to eat X brand food or live with people who make X amount of money.

    I adopted an Aussie out to a family that was turned down by a respected Aussie rescue, after being given the run around no less. This family has owned multiple Aussies over the years and really loves the breed. They applied with Aussie rescue after seeing a couple dogs they felt would be a good match listed on the org's page.  They filled out an application and sent it in. They were told they needed a home check and agreed to it. They were then told that there was no "approved home evalutor" in their area, so they'd have to get someone approved before their application could be approved. Weeks go by and they are back and forth about the home check. They can't arrange to see any of the dogs until the home check is completed. After about three weeks, they happen to run into someone walking Aussies in a park and find out this person fosters for the org they are trying to adopt from and lives no more than 15 minutes from them. But they aren't "approved" to do home checks. They end up arranging for this person to be allowed to do their home check. Then they are turned down for not having a fence - something they were open about on their application and was never mentioned as being a problem until the home check. They were extremely frustrated about the whole thing and couldn't believe that they would be labeled inappropriate owners for the breed that they have shared their home with for 18 or so years. They gave the Aussie I was placing a great home - she had a really sad six years of being shuffled from bad to worse situations before I took her in and now she finally has a good life with owners who adore her.

     We would have been turned down, without a doubt for our corgi had the shelter fact checked our application.

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  • 10-27-2009 1:01 AM In reply to AgileGSD

    Re: Hello, trying to pick a dog

    Well, I have to say that out of the three forums I joined, this one seems the nicest. I may not agree with everything that has been said, and there are obviously those that wouldn't agree with me, but at least there's an open discussion instead of attacks as I've seen on the other forums. I also appreciate that people here do seem to realize that not every dog is the same, and that some dogs fit better into situations that some others would be shocked at. (outdoors vs indoors etc). I believe someone said something along those lines just a few posts up.

    I have an appointment tomorrow to go look at an Aussie Cattle Dog/Blue Heeler mix. I've spoken with several rescues on the phone, explained my situation to them and that there are several forums telling me that I would not be able to get a dog because of not being in the bedroom at night, in a shop instead, etc. I was very honest about it all and got a gasp in reply of "that sounds great to me, why would anyone refuse to give you a dog because of that? You will be completely fine with us."

    I'm feeling better about it now, I'm excited yet trying to maintain a rational and logical outlook and keep emotions out of the meeting so I can be sure the dog and I will be a good fit. I really don't want to just drag it home blinded by the first emotional rush of a prospective dog.

    I'm excited though. I'll let you know how it goes. If I somehow get turned down by the shelters etc, I know of a beautiful 6 month old German Shepard that I can take in from a private party. She's not in drastic need to get rid of her though and I told her I'd like to take in a dog that needs a home badly instead if I can. She's another one that I explained my situation to and was shocked anyone would refuse a dog to me simply because it sleeps in a shop instead of on my bed.

    Fingers crossed for tomorrow.
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  • 10-27-2009 10:21 AM In reply to ripsnorter

    Re: Hello, trying to pick a dog

    Good luck! Smile

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  • 10-27-2009 10:27 AM In reply to ripsnorter

    • erica1989
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    Re: Hello, trying to pick a dog

    The shelter I work for does have an 'inside only policy' - however! We DO make exceptions - for the right dog. Like the foxhound, we had him probably close to 8 months. Every attempt to crate train him failed, miserably. He couldn't be fostered, because he tried to eat cats (most, if not all of our foster homes have cats). He pooped - ALL OVER. He howled. ALL. NIGHT. LONG. He was miserable inside. But instead of insisting on an inside only home, we found him a great farm home - where he could not be happier. Some dogs just are not cut out for couch life.

    I think you (OP) are doing the absolute correct thing by being open and honest about what you are looking for. I think many groups will respect you immensely for that - and really work to find a dog that matches what you need. We had someone adopt a pit from us, who lied on their application. He had special needs (due to a run in with a car) and needed continuous therapy on his leg. The guy ended up living nearby the shelter, and our dog walkers found our pit tied up under a tree - where he could reach the street. Our director called, and he flat out said that's just how he kept his dogs. Our boy was hot, lonely and miserable. Needless to say - he came back to us. Not suited for farm life...

    Good luck! And be sure to post pictures when you get your new dog!

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  • 10-30-2009 1:23 AM In reply to erica1989

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    I got my puppy today! I adopted an Australian Cattle Dog/ Australian Shepherd Mix and he is about 7 months old. I adopted him from a shelter and he's falling asleep on my floor at the moment. We've taken a ton of pictures of him, but as it's night time none of them are very good and most are blurry, so we are going to try again tomorrow.

    He's a great dog. He learns very quickly and is already very good at taking walks with us. He already knows not to jump up, has a very gentle mouth (he doesn't bite hard when playing or nipping), learned the boundaries of the house of where he can go in about three minutes flat and hasn't set one paw outside of the boundary since. He is very good with food, allows us to take it away from him without complaining and understand people food v. puppy food. We made bbq pork sandwiches around him today and he didn't beg nor did he try to grab a bite when some accidentally fell on the floor. He has very good manners and he is at an excellent starting point for training. He is exceptionally bright as well.

    His name was initially Magic, but that didn't really fit his personality. Currently, we're trying on the name Lincoln. My girlfriend noticed his copper color and thought about Lincoln being on a penny, so that's how we came to the name. It seems to fit him pretty well. His nickname will be Link, for sure. He's very friendly and has lots of energy, so he should fit in just fine. I'm going to take him around tomorrow and show him off to all of my neighbors. I'm also going to walk him around the property line a couple times and start teaching him the boundaries of this area.

    I'll get some more pictures of him tomorrow. He's probably going to be pretty sick of having his picture taken by the time we get done with him :D

    Oh, and tomorrow he is also going to help me cut a dog door in the shop and add on his fence.

    By the way, can anyone tell me why i have to use brackets in order to make paragraphs in my posts?
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  • 10-30-2009 12:52 PM In reply to ripsnorter

    • denise m
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    Re: Hello, trying to pick a dog

     What great news. I don't know a heck of a lot about cattle dogs but I can tell you can;t beat the Aussie personality and smarts. I predict Link will end up being mostly an indoor dog. LOL!

    You must be on Safari. Downlaod Firefox. No need for brackets. 

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  • 10-30-2009 1:53 PM In reply to denise m

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    Opera actually, I haven't tried it on any other browsers.

    Pictures should be up tonight or today.

    Cute little sucker :)
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  • 10-31-2009 10:13 PM In reply to ripsnorter

    Re: Hello, trying to pick a dog

    Here's his pics! He's beautiful in my unbiased opinion ;)

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  • 10-31-2009 11:14 PM In reply to ripsnorter

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    He's beautiful! I wish you nothing but the best with him!

    -Stephanie
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  • 10-31-2009 11:23 PM In reply to ripsnorter

    Re: Hello, trying to pick a dog

    ripsnorter:
    He's a great dog. He learns very quickly and is already very good at taking walks with us. He already knows not to jump up, has a very gentle mouth (he doesn't bite hard when playing or nipping), learned the boundaries of the house of where he can go in about three minutes flat and hasn't set one paw outside of the boundary since. He is very good with food, allows us to take it away from him without complaining and understand people food v. puppy food. We made bbq pork sandwiches around him today and he didn't beg nor did he try to grab a bite when some accidentally fell on the floor. He has very good manners and he is at an excellent starting point for training. He is exceptionally bright as well.

     

    aahh..  The honeymoon period!  I'm not saying he won't remain a good boy but expect some things to change as he feels more comfortable. WinkHe is beautiful!  Best of luck with him and keep up the training that wonderful.  And I predict he may become a house dog as well. Surprise  

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