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Really Kovu, really? You have to be this sick right now? (Chelsea)

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  • 10-22-2009 3:34 AM

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    Really Kovu, really? You have to be this sick right now? (Chelsea)

    So I know I haven't given a Cherokee update in a while...but that's because there's not much to update. She's still alive and limpin'. I don't know if that's selfish yet or not. She's on Rimadyl every 12 hours, and Tramadol (pretty close to the max dose) every 8 hours (sometimes I even do every 6 hours). Clockwork, both of them. But she's still in visible pain a lot of the time. Not like HORRIBLE pain, but visible for Cherokee is a biggy. She always limps, but at this point it seems like her whole shoulder muscle is now tumor, so I can't imagine even if she were numb that she wouldn't limp, ya know? So it's sort of hard to tell, but when she's reluctant to move, it's obvious, and sometimes I can tell just by the way she looks at me...

    I called the vet office to refill her tramadol prescription last week and the woman who answered the phone (who was not one of the regular receptionists) gave me a hard time about it. She's like "1 1/2 to 2 pills every 8-12 hours AS NEEDED for pain. And this says we just gave you 40 on the 8th..that's one week ago! You need it again already??" Well yes you stupid witch, my dog has a giant tumor on her shoulder, and "as needed" is ALWAYS! So yeah, 2 pills times 3 times a day times 7 days...wow, equals 42 pills. I was so freaking mad. She was much nicer when she called back an hour later to tell me that she got the refill approved (well DUH!), but Dr. H (my vet) wasn't there that day so they wanted to wait til the next day to give it to me just to run it by her and make sure it was fine.. Great, whatever floats yer friggin boat.. I found out when I picked it up the next day that she was the office manager, and apparently has power issues.. But seriously, I'm still mad, and now a little afraid to call in prescriptions for fear of that kind of treatment. Grrr...

    Anyway... the point of this post is my STUPID CAT, who I love to death, but WHY does he have to get sick right now?? He's got feline herpes (probably..), and has a flare-up about every year and a half..so I guess he was due.. He actually started showing symptoms (the typical upper respiratory stuff..a little coughing, a bit of wheezing, a sneeze here and there, etc.) a little before Cherokee got diagnosed, so probably a month and a half or two months ago, but the flare-ups always just run their course whether I rush him to the vet or not, so I chose to wait, since it was getting clear that I might have to take Cherokee in, and I only had $400 of vet money saved up (I swear it's every time I get the stupid vet fund up to ~$400 I have to take one of them in and it's cleared right out again, lol).

    Then of course Cherokee's whole saga started so I've been a little preoccupied and probably not paying as much attention to Kovu's issues as I should've, and now.. He's lost 2-3 pounds in the past month or so, which he had to spare, but still that's pretty quick. In the past week or so I've NOTICED that his appetite's been pretty bad.. and noticed is the key word, I'm honestly not sure how long that's actually been going on. The first couple days I just let him do his thing, thinking maybe he was just fasting or eating the other cats' food or hunting in the yard. But then I got scared because of Tiger-Lily's whole thing last year where she stopped eating for a few days, developed a fatty liver, and almost died... So I started hand-feeding Kov canned food. And then I found a bottle of mirtazapine (an appetite stimulant..Tiger's from when she was sick), and have given him that a couple times.. which seems to help, and he's back to eating somewhat normally, BUT today he's started throwing up within 10 minutes of eating. What's that about??

    Also his breathing's gotten worse. Sometimes when he's purring he starts breathing with his mouth open a bit. Honestly it's normal for Kovu to breathe with his mouth open slightly if he's really stressed, he's done that since he was 9 weeks old, but just while purring is abnormal.. I know "vet NOW", but here's the deal. My credit cards are all but maxed out. I have $80 to my name (that's not really mine anyway). There's not a chance of a lender giving me any sort of credit with the amount of debt I have and my income, and I have no one to turn to. Cherokee also needs $150 of prescriptions in the next few days (that I was planning on using the $80 and finishing off a credit card for). I'm picking up as many shifts as I can at work. I would sell my soul for these animals, but I don't know HOW. And also, this might sound terrible, but I'm so afraid that I'm going to spend every cent I can get access to on Kovu's vet trip, and then what happens when Cherokee needs to go in?

    I'm not looking for a pity party, I'm just trying to find out if anyone has any clue what could be wrong with Kovu, or if there's anything I can do on my own to help him out. I don't want him to be miserable or sick, but I can't NOT get Cherokee's prescriptions for her. If he keeps throwing up everything he eats, or if his breathing gets any worse, I obviously have to get him to a vet, but assuming he can hold down food and he can breathe? I dunno...

    Money sucks. A lot. I honestly don't know how I'm going to deal with this stuff when my pupper and reason for living is gone...
    Chelsea &
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  • 10-22-2009 8:40 AM In reply to chelsea_b

    Re: Really Kovu, really? You have to be this sick right now? (Chelsea)

    Man, I'm really sorry you are going through all this right now.

    I have a cat with herpes too.  Flares up after a stressful event.  Typical upper respitory stuff too.  How long has this been going on with Kovu?  How do his eyes look?  Sometimes the flareup is mild and it just has to run it's course.  Adding powdered Lysine to his food can help boost the immune system, but their really isn't any medication to stop it.  If the flare up is more severe, it can lead to conjunctavitis...and his eyes will get REALLY gunky...that warrents a trip to vet.  

    http://www.thecatsite.com/Health/221/Feline-Herpes-and-Rhinotracheitis.html

    This artical reccomends a cold-steam vaporizer, but we have put Neigi in the bathroom with a hot shower running to help the congestion.  Keep encouraging him to eat.  Right now, I bet he's stuffed up and can't really smell anything.  Cats rely on smell to encourage eating.  Stinky food are better and for the moment it doesn't matter what.  

    Hope this helps.  I'm sorry I don't have any ideas for your financial troubles.  Could you offer time working at the vet clinic in exchange for an exam for Kovu?

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  • 10-22-2009 2:14 PM In reply to chelsea_b

    Re: Really Kovu, really? You have to be this sick right now? (Chelsea)

     I'm so sorry you are dealing with all of this.

    For the kitty: 

    l-lysine twice a day at 250 mg (mix it directly into meals); for a flare-up, double her dose - helps with the herpes. The powder is best, but if not, just grind up the tablets

    the not eating - definitely force feed to prevent fatty liver. That is a vet visit when they aren't eating. I'm glad you have an appy stimulant. Try small meals to help prevent the vomitting afterwards.

    For nausea: Try giving a Pepcid AC before eating (The is the Pepcid AC 10mg tablet...NOT the Pepcid Complete... and NOT the Extra Strength 20mg tablet); common dosage is 1/4 of a 10mg tablet every other day, or every day if necessary. Also, not all cats tolerate Pepcid.

    Watch for dehydration; do subq fluids if necessary.

    That's all I can think of right now. Hope this helps get him over the hump without a vet visit. Lots of prayers for you and your crew.

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  • 10-22-2009 2:27 PM In reply to PurplePets22

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    Re: Really Kovu, really? You have to be this sick right now? (Chelsea)

    It's kind of odd, Kovu's flare ups seem to alternate between involving his eyes and not. The last one (last April) he ended up with a blocked tear duct and had a bump close to the size of a ping pong ball beneath his eye. The time before that (December 2006?) it was almost all respiratory, he started coughing and sneezing blood, and ended up getting a trachael wash (this was before he was dx'd as FVR) and some high powered antibiotics. This time it seems to be all respiratory again. His eyes seems pretty normal.

    He's got one eye that was ulcerated and untreated as a kitten (before I got him), so he's got some pretty major scar tissue across his eye. Last time he flared his cornea was so irritated, it was basically opaque (where I can normally easily see his iris and pupil, even if its a bit cloudy), and he had blood vessels all across. Weirdly it went back to normal afterwards, which I didn't really expect it to.

    I do give Kov lysine. I have since his last flare up. Maybe it's helping his eyes not be involved this time, I don't know..

    Anyway.. I bought a humidifier online yesterday, and it just got here, so hopefully that does some good. It'll be good for Cherokee too.

    I haven't seen him yet today, so I'm gonna go find him and see how he's doing. Trap him in my room with the humidifier, and try to get some food into him.

    That post last night was kind of dramatic, sorry about that. I was just really stressed out and depressed right that minute.
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  • 10-23-2009 8:30 PM In reply to chelsea_b

    Re: Really Kovu, really? You have to be this sick right now? (Chelsea)

    chelsea_b:
    I was just really stressed out and depressed right that minute.
     

      You have a lot to deal with right now; I think you're coping pretty good. I'll keep Kovu in my thoughts; your furbabies are very lucky to have you to care for them; {{{{{{hugs}}}}}}

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  • 10-23-2009 9:01 PM In reply to jessies_mom

    Re: Really Kovu, really? You have to be this sick right now? (Chelsea)

    I don't know anything about cats.  I'm learning as Tempo goes thru each new thing.  But, for the money issue, can you get that Care Credit thing people mention on here??   It's only for vet bills as far as I understand. 

    Also, another thing I thought of.  Depending on if it's cheaper Tramadol is a human drug and you could get it at a pharmacy maybe cheaper than the vets??  Willow's been on Tramadol before and the vet would just call it right in to our pharmacy. 

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  • 10-24-2009 2:52 AM In reply to jessies_mom

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    Re: Really Kovu, really? You have to be this sick right now? (Chelsea)

    jessies_mom:
    your furbabies are very lucky to have you to care for them;
    Nah...they might be lucky if I could afford them. I don't even know what business I think I have having these animals. I maxed out my credit cards paying for my Mom and sister's vet bills, and now I have no way to pay for my own. Great plan there Chels...

    I'm gonna check Care Credit, but I doubt even they'll approve me. My credit is shot until I pay down my debt. I do have some room on a credit card I thought was closed, but I just found out isn't. I'm a little afraid they'll jack my APR through the roof if I use it, but oh well.

    I need to call my vet though about some better pain meds for Cherokee, because I can't stand seeing her in pain. Though I don't know what else there is to give her..she's on Rimadyl, Tramadol, and hydrocodone for coughing (which I'm now giving her even when she's not coughing in hopes that it helps with pain too).

    Kovu's breathing is a ton better today, but he's still throwing up randomly. Good news though is he doesn't seem to be dehydrated. His skin snaps back quickly every time I check, and his mouth isn't all tacky (which was how I knew my Mom's cat was dehydrated when she was sick).. I do have a bag of sub-Q fluids though in case that changes...
    Chelsea &
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  • 10-24-2009 11:50 AM In reply to chelsea_b

    Re: Really Kovu, really? You have to be this sick right now? (Chelsea)

    Chelsea, how are they both doing today?

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  • 10-24-2009 6:12 PM In reply to shamrockmommy

    Re: Really Kovu, really? You have to be this sick right now? (Chelsea)

    Yes, how are Chelsea and Kovu today? 

    And, don't forget that any drug they use thats also for humans you can probably get cheaper at a human pharmacy than buying from the vet. 

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  • 10-25-2009 9:26 AM In reply to willowchow

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    Re: Really Kovu, really? You have to be this sick right now? (Chelsea)

     Chelsea, I'm so sorry for all your "kids'" health problems :( Is there any way your family could pitch in a few dollars to help with the vet bills? Didn't you say you paid for some of their expenses?

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  • 10-28-2009 2:52 AM In reply to Cita

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    Re: Really Kovu, really? You have to be this sick right now? (Chelsea)

    Sorry I haven't been around the past couple days. Kovu currently sounds sort of like Darth Vader, but he seems to be feeling fine. He's eating (not *quite* normally, but getting there), not puking.. and he's not hiding or running from me, which he ALWAYS does if he's not feeling good...

    Cherokee's doing okay. She's been more herself this evening than she has been the past couple days, which is awesome, because I was worried she was losing the will to care about anything (yesterday she was laying in the foyer when the FedEx man came up and rang the doorbell...there was a screen door and about 8 feet separating them, she normally would have gone absolutely ballistic, and instead she let out one bark and just laid there. I just burst into tears.). She's been policing the cats, barking at pizza men, scratching her back on the carpet...all at maybe 60% of normal, but that's better than 0%!

    I know I'm a crappy pet owner for not taking Kovu in yet, but he's definitely getting better, and if he stops getting better or starts getting worse, I'll find a way to get him to the vet. I'm just kind of going one day at a time for both of them. Like, okay, they're fine TODAY, if they're not TOMORROW, we'll figure it out then..you know? I'm just so stressed about every single aspect of my life right now that I can't deal with any more than today.

    I feel like an alcoholic.."one day at a time"..lol. Next thing you know I'll be reciting "God grant me the serenity..." Too bad I don't believe in god, huh.
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  • 10-28-2009 7:39 AM In reply to chelsea_b

    Re: Really Kovu, really? You have to be this sick right now? (Chelsea)

     Chelsea, there are some resources here that you should know about:

    http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/what_you_can_do_if_you_are_having_trouble_affording_veterinary_care.html

     

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